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Weekly Poll Results - Starship Versus: CIS Malevolance vs. Avenger (ISDII) - Poll Results
Posted by: Maveritchell on 01-23-2011 @ 23:57
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| Starship Versus: CIS Malevolance vs. Avenger (ISDII) |
|Malevolance ||55.1% (555)|
|Avenger ||44.8% (452)|
|Start: 12-05-2010 14:36|
|Last: 01-23-2011 19:27|
Everyone should realize that the Maleviolence is a huge deadly CIS cruiser even more deadly then the Invisible Hand and it is controlled by General Grevious.
The Avenger, is a super-sized Republic cruiser that has never lost a battle.
No idea what each of them are, but I'll look and post/vote later.
I can't decide. They're both very good ships.
If you have seen Star Wars: The Clone Wars on Cartoon Network, you would remember that episode where Anakin Skywalker leads his tropps against the Malevolence. The most dangerous weapon is it's Ion Cannon or whatever it is. It disables ships and then they blow up.
The Avenger is a Star Destroyer that is seen in The Empire Strikes Back that waas chasing the Millenium Falcon.
I can't decide which is superior, but I like the Empire so I choose the Avenger, mainly because it has never lost a battle.
To be honest, I really have no clue whatsoever. Both ships are pretty powerful. According to Wookiepedia, the Malevolence has an armament consisting of 500 twin turbolaser cannons, 5 point defense light laser cannon batteries, 2 tractor beam batteries, and 2 ion pulse cannons. The Imperial Star Destroyer Mark II (what the Avenger was) has an armament of 8 octuple turbolasers, 5 heavy turbolasers, 5 turbolasers, and at least 26 additional turbolasers, along with 20 heavy ion cannons and 10 tractor beam batteries. Also, if we look at size, the ISDII does look a bit out of it's class. According to Wookiepedia, the ISDII is 1.6 KM long. The Subjugator-class Warship, however, is around 4.8 KM long. But since when does size matter? I don't know if these number are correct, and please don't start saying I'm a moron, because I'm basing these off of what Wookiepedia said, and I'm not saying that they're accurate. I'm not going to vote until I read what other people have to say, what others say always seems to shed light on the situation.
I'm guessing that after all the years between the Malevolence and the ISDII that they would have come up with A: A defence against that ion weapon and B: Cannons that have longer range. (Because the ion weapon outranged the other guns, giving the Malevolece the advantage). Another thing to consider is strategy. The Avenger could send all it's bombers towards the Malevolence to bomb it's ion weapon while staying out of range.
Same as Jdg50 on this one, but i vote avenger
i agree with FighterRex. it depends on stategy. and all i know is that as soon as the avenger is in range, the ion pulse cannon on the malevolance will disable him, and the SD will be obliterated. not that these two ships were operating at once, but i still vote the malevolance
Very easy. Avenger. All the way.
Reason #1: It's much more modren than the sorry-excuse-for-a-cruiser, and this... Malelvo-whatimajiggy is obsolete.
Reason#2: An Ion cannon? The Empire's Star Destroyers are allready equipped with those things all over it! Hell, they even got fighters equipped with Ion guns!
Reason#3: Like a few have said, the Avenger hasn't lost a battle... unless the battle of Endor, if it was there in the first place...
See, it was this kind of response I was hoping to see... because it is so completely ridiculous. One is a superweapon, the other is a standard destroyer. You're talking about maybe a 30-year difference between the two in terms of tech, and this is in the Star Wars universe, where tech advancement is sluggish at best on a grand scale. Even if you look at it on an Earth scale, a 30-year old battleship with ten times as many guns as a modern cruiser would still pulverize the modern cruiser.
The Malevolance doesn't just have an ion cannon, it has a super-laser-scale ion cannon that could take out entire fleets of proto-Star-Destroyers. A single planet defender ion cannon (a standard ground emplacement) was too much for one Star Destroyer to handle, and this superweapon gets written off because it's old? So are proton torpedoes, and they were good enough to blow up a Death Star. The Death Star itself was tech conceived in the Clone Wars.
It is always amusing to see people answer these polls with "oh duh answer X, because it's Imperial, and they're the best because I like them."
I don't really go further than "I like the Avenger, cause the Empire is awesome!", but here goes.
What Mav said. It's all about how many guns you have, how big your ship is, and who is controlling the ship.
Guns: Guns, guns, guns. It's always gotta be guns! If a tank and a cruiser got in a fight, who would win? The cruiser, cause it has multiple weapons while the tank has one (1). In this case who would win: Malevolance or Avenger? The Malevolance. Why? 800 turbolasers to blast your @$$ into oblivion!! And an ion cannon the size of a corvette. Nuff said. Moving on.
Size: Bigger isn't better, stronger isn't braver, taller isn't always wise. Yes, I got that from a Broadway musical. Not it isn't always true. You know that saying, "it's not about the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean"? Forget that. In this scenario I want the Titanic! I would say Malevolance cause it is 4.8 km versus the Avenger's 1.6 km.
Leadership: Let's see. A reptillian robot versus a human. I would say Grievous all the way since he is just a complete d-bag in the Star Wars universe and is brutal on epic proportions. If Grievous was a superweapon, he would definitely be the Malevolance. And honestly, Grievous would wreck any captain who makes one-liners about his hobby while at work. "Good, our first catch of the day". Honestly. But I do agree that if the Avenger were to stay out of range and send in a fleet of bombers, it would wreck shop.
The Facts: Malevolance, Malevolance, mostly Malevolance
My Opinion: Avenger. Empire ftw!
Mav, you were totally right, and that's exactly what I did. i just choose the Avenger 'cause it's an Imperial Cruiser and there's only a 30-year difference. After reading Mav's comment, I changed my mind almost immediatly after reading it. Not just because he said he rather chooses the Malevolence, but beacuse of the factors I didn't encounter, and after reading Wookieepedia's info on both of these ships and studying closer, I change my vote.
I would say the Malevolence would win because of two reasons.
1.) The Malevolence has a big enough ion cannon to completely disable the Avenger with one shot. The avenger does have ion cannons too, but they are too small to disable a ship with one shot. It needs a lot of shots and by the time they hit 50-100 or so, they are already shot by the huge ion cannon on the Malevolence.
2.) The Malevolence has more cannons and turrets than the avenger. Sure, the Avenger is huge, but it has hardly any cannons on it. In my opinion, it was based on size, so they could frighten their enemies and make them lose the will to fight them.
... That bada&%$ is the Malevowatimajiggy? Dang. There goes my way of thinking. I still like the Imps, though... ... ... Do you think the Malevo-thing could take on the Executor?
Maybe? I didn't make a more well-known Imperial ship the other choice, though, because I wanted to see if people would think about their votes. The Executor has a lot more conventional firepower than the Malevolence does, but the Malevolence still has that super-weapon, which is probably an effective one-shot against any capital ship. I thought about making it Malevolence vs. Eclipse, which would really just boil down to whichever ship got the jump on the other, since the Eclipse's superlaser could destroy the Malevolence in one shot but the Malevolence's ion cannon could probably take the Eclipse out of battle in one shot.
i think the eclipse would win because destruction isn't the same as shutdown. but that doesn't matter. i voted for avenger because A) i don't like TCW and B) there's the malevolence in a mod for EaW, but it's very easy to destroy in that mod. i know that's a bad reasoning but i don't care this time
Also, doesn't the Malevolence only have ONE ion cannon that size? If so, the Avenger could just out-manouver it to flank it on its weak side.
@ Rogue_Clone: no, it has two ion cannons, one on each side.
depends weather the avenger gets the emp thingy off the malevolence and if it does the malevolence is screwed
I Go With Molevolence
i vote for the Avanger because i like star destroyer more than the Malevolance. and actually, the malevolance was just blowed up after a two or three episodes of clone wars^^ typical luck of general grievous^^
Malevolence for me. I saw the comments and i thought gosh, 800 turbolaser vs. what, 44 guns , which are more powerful but get their @$$ kicked by the 2 ion cannons. I don't think the avenger could destroy the Malevolence before the subjugator got those ion cannons firing to disable the Avenger and beat the stuffing out of it with the 800 turbos that were mentioned. Malevolence all the way
Malevolence. 1 because of the bad@$$ gun on that thing and 2 because of a particular cyborg called grievous at the controls.
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Total comments: 2 | Last comment: 02-08-2011 at 13:31
From: (The Land of Jerks)
Joined: April 23rd, 2010
|well, my stategy would've been for the malevolance to take on 2 or 3 ships. 1 on each side and one in front. 500 tie fighters and 200 tie bombers flank the malevolance. the malevolance shoots ion cannon from each side and disables 2 ships, along with 300/700 ties. eclipse comes in. fire superlaser. move malevolance 3 inches to the left. superlaser hits last isd. malevolance disables eclipse. death star comes in. 200 vulture droids land on superlaser dish. superlaser fires, and the explosion of droids disables death star superlaser. by now the malevolance has killed the eclipse. executor comes in and bumps into death star. kablooie, and the malevolance with it. grievous gets away with his starfighter just in the nick of time. |
From: (North Carolina)
Joined: February 7th, 2011
|To be honest, I really have no clue whatsoever. Both ships are pretty powerful. According to Wookiepedia, the Malevolence has an armament consisting of 500 twin turbolaser cannons, 5 point defense light laser cannon batteries, 2 tractor beam batteries, and 2 ion pulse cannons. The Imperial Star Destroyer Mark II (what the Avenger was) has an armament of 8 octuple turbolasers, 5 heavy turbolasers, 5 turbolasers, and at least 26 additional turbolasers, along with 20 heavy ion cannons and 10 tractor beam batteries. Also, if we look at size, the ISDII does look a bit out of it's class. According to Wookiepedia, the ISDII is 1.6 KM long. The Subjugator-class Warship, however, is around 4.8 KM long. But since when does size matter? I don't know if these number are correct, and please don't start saying I'm a moron, because I'm basing these off of what Wookiepedia said, and I'm not saying that they're accurate. I'm not going to vote until I read what other people have to say, what others say always seems to shed light on the situation. |
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